It just needs one next step for the listener. Come watch me show you how, live, on my own show.
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That last one is the belief that keeps the most moms stuck, so let’s deal with it right now.
You don’t need a bigger audience. You need the listeners you already have to know where to go next. A podcast is one of the few things that can bring you clients before you’re “big,” because it’s not about how many people hear you. It’s about what you say and where you send them.
Imagine someone finds an episode you recorded two years ago. They listen while folding laundry, and at the end they know exactly what to do next. And they do it.
Imagine opening your inbox to “I’ve been binging your show, how do I work with you?” instead of another unsubscribe.
Imagine closing Instagram without guilt, because your podcast is doing the job you keep asking social media to do.
No slides about theory. I’ll walk you through the 5 phases every listener goes through before they buy, then open my own podcast and show you exactly where listeners get stuck and what I’m changing. Then you’ll get quiet time to look at your own show.
Rizza Mae Marvel’s podcast had 439 plays in almost three years, and it was only on Spotify.
We moved her show onto every app, gave it a cover that shows who it’s for, and went through all 55 of her episodes. Every one got a new title and show notes that send the listener to one next step.
Today her show is number one on page one of Apple Podcasts for “branding for entrepreneurs,” with 1,941 downloads and listeners in 92 countries.
I got my first podcast comment a couple of days ago and looked at my analytics and wow! I can really see your work paying off.


Every one of your episodes needs to be looked at. Yes, every one. Your 2022 episode is being found today, and right now it’s sending people somewhere old.
That’s not fun to hear, and it won’t feel good to look at your old episodes. I’m doing it to my own show right now, so I know.
But you don’t have to start over, you don’t have to delete anything, and you don’t have to do it all by yourself. That’s what this workshop is for.
“I need more downloads first.”
Clients come from trust, not reach. Rizza’s goal was never a million downloads. It was for her podcast to bring her leads so she could spend less time on social.
“My old episodes don’t matter anymore.”
They’re being found right now. One longtime host told me “once it’s out there, it’s out there.” The only question is where those episodes send people.
“Fixing my show means starting over.”
Rizza kept every episode. Nothing got deleted. Her show caught up to her business without a relaunch.
“I have 200 episodes. There’s no way I’m going back through all of them.”
They all need it. You just don’t have to do it alone, and I’ll show you where to start.
“Selling on my own show feels pushy.”
Your listeners can’t buy what you never mention. Being clear isn’t pushy, it’s kind.
“My show is too small.”
Small shows are welcome. Rizza started at 439 plays.
This is for you if
You have published episodes, even just a few
You have a real offer you want your podcast to sell
You want your podcast and your business working together, not as two separate jobs
This isn’t for you if
You don’t have a podcast yet. Start with the free Podcast Launch Plan at mypodcastlaunchplan.com
You’re chasing downloads, sponsorships or going viral
You don’t have an offer yet

I’m Pamela Krista, a mom of 5 and the founder of Moms Who Podcast. I’ve launched 65+ podcasts, built two shows into the top 2% globally, and recorded 180+ episodes of my own.
My own show had dead links and old offers in it too. I’m auditing it right now, episode by episode, and on Nov 10 you’ll watch me do it.
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Yes. At the end I’ll share my done for you Podcast Audit, for anyone who wants me to do this for them. You’ll know exactly what it is, and you can decide for yourself.
No. I audit MY show live. You work on yours privately during quiet time. No hot seats, no cold calls.
Your podcast open on your screen and your last 5 episodes handy.
Inside the free Moms Who Podcast community on Skool. You’ll get the link when you register.
No. It’s live only, on purpose. Put it on your calendar like a doctor’s appointment. The people who show up live are the ones who actually change their show.